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\"QUESTION:<\/strong> Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and much more, the United States Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Mr. Secretary, good to have you with us. Let\u2019s begin with the rhetoric of the Chinese Government, and it is moving up quite a \u2013 to quite heated extremes now. Your interpretation of what\u2019s going on in Beijing.<\/p>\n SECRETARY POMPEO:<\/strong> So, Lou, thanks for having me on. That was quite a list you read there with respect to the Chinese Communist Party\u2019s aggression. I think what\u2019s going on with the rhetoric is for the first time there\u2019s an administration, a President in the United States who isn\u2019t just going to turn the other cheek, who\u2019s prepared to take on this challenge. It\u2019s 40 years in coming. Frankly, America slept while China grew. You talked about their missile systems, their military, all the things that have grown. President Trump \u2013 the trade issues, all the economic issues that you\u2019ve talked about on your show for months and months and months now. President Trump is taking each of these on in a serious way, and I think you see the rhetoric from the Chinese Communist Party ratcheting up because they are feeling the pressure that\u2019s being put on them by this administration.<\/p>\n QUESTION:<\/strong> And the issue of a cold war, as the foreign minister suggested, between the two countries. It is \u2013 is it not decidedly already that?<\/p>\n SECRETARY POMPEO:<\/strong> Yeah, Lou, the Cold War analogy has some relevance but the truth of the matter is the Chinese Communist Party made some choices under General Secretary Xi. He\u2019s made it clear whether it\u2019s his military buildup, the diplomatic efforts, the Belt and Road Initiative to try and create vassal states, a tyrannical regime all around the world for global hegemony \u2013 the challenges are different. There are economic challenges here at home. The United Front Work \u2013 we had to close the consulate, the Chinese consulate in Houston, Texas, because there were spies operating from that place. It had truly become a den of spies. This is different than the Cold War in that we are challenged by a country with 1.4 billion people, an economy that had year-on-year growth of about 6 percent GDP, and it cost millions of jobs here in the United States of America. We will \u2013 we will push back against them. President Trump will push back against them on every one of these fronts.<\/p>\n QUESTION:<\/strong> Among those fronts are the companies, the front companies from the People\u2019s Republic of China in this country, hundreds upon hundreds of them that are stealing intellectual property, whether \u2013 by whatever means, but including cyber, of course, cyber attacks. What are we going to see happen? There has been so little acknowledgment on the part of China that it is committing crimes against the United States and certainly no remorse. Are we going to carry out a full assault on those who would steal our intellectual property, our technology secrets, our military secrets?<\/p>\n SECRETARY POMPEO:<\/strong> I\u2019m confident that under President Trump\u2019s leadership we will, Lou. Your point is well taken. Billions and billions of dollars\u2019 worth of American wealth for ordinary working-class families. Millions of jobs lost over the last 20 years. We came in with a lot of work to do. The previous administration had refused to confront this challenge. And you\u2019ve seen us do it in places \u2013 we\u2019ve done it with respect to telecommunications, Huawei; the work that we have done there has cost Huawei a lot because it was stealing stuff from us. And now you\u2019ll see a broader effort. There\u2019ll be announcements, I think, in the coming days and weeks where you\u2019ll see the United States confront this in a very serious way, all to the benefit of the American economy, whether that is students that are studying here in the United States that are part of this network, whether it is \u2013 you talked about the incident at UCLA. There was one in the University of Virginia. So the FBI and the Justice Department are working on these issues too. All of the places where the Chinese Communist Party has simply refused to behave like a normal nation and compete on normal commercial terms, America has turned its cheek for decades; President Trump is simply not going to permit that to continue to happen. We\u2019ve built out the case and now it\u2019s time to execute and implement the President\u2019s strategy.<\/p>\n QUESTION:<\/strong> At last count there were 75 of the so-called Confucius Institutes in K through 12, American colleges and university campuses. How many will there be by the end of this year?<\/p>\n SECRETARY POMPEO:<\/strong> I hope the answer is zero, Lou. We\u2019ve made clear that these are foreign missions. The State Department has designated them as such. That\u2019s important because now they come under a set of restrictions and rules. I think most universities \u2013 and frankly, we\u2019ve had these Confucius Institution places other than American colleges. I think that everyone\u2019s coming to see the risk associated with them and the recruitment of spies and collaborators inside of those institutions. I think these institutions can see that and I\u2019m hopeful we will get them all closed out before the end of this year.<\/p>\n QUESTION:<\/strong> And the prospect that Chinese students will just simply be disallowed in the United States because they have been the agents, if you will, of espionage amongst the many agents of espionage in this country working for the CCP.<\/p>\n SECRETARY POMPEO:<\/strong> Lou, I don\u2019t know what decision the President will ultimately make with respect to the broad array of Chinese students, but your point is well taken. They aren\u2019t all spies, but many of them are being watched, their families back home are being watched, and these are efforts for the Chinese Government \u2013 the Chinese Communist Party in particular \u2013 to identify those that might ultimately work on their behalf.<\/p>\n QUESTION:<\/strong> As the complexity \u2013 the depth of the complexity and this challenge and threat from the People\u2019s Republic of China has to be met on so many levels and in so many theaters, including amongst our allies, whether they be in Europe or Southeast Asia. We know that India \u2013 Modi has sent a warship into the South China Sea, an act in response \u2013 it is at least interpreted as such \u2013 against the clashes on the border with China, and also it appears with some affinity with the U.S. Navy that is in the South China Sea. The importance of the relationship with India in meeting the threat from China.<\/p>\n SECRETARY POMPEO:<\/strong> Lou, it\u2019s central that we have friends and allies in this battle. We\u2019ve worked for two years now to build that out. We\u2019ve made real progress. You\u2019ve seen lots of countries turn away from Huawei. You\u2019ve seen them acknowledge the threat. They slept on this threat the same way America did for two decades. I think you\u2019re seeing the entire world begin to unite around the central understanding that the Chinese Communist Party simply is going to refuse to compete in a fair, reciprocal, transparent way, and so whether it\u2019s our friends in India, our friends in Australia, friends in Japan or South Korea, I think they have all come to see the risk to their own people, to their own countries, and you\u2019ll see them partner with the United States to push back on every front that we\u2019ve talked about this evening.<\/p>\n QUESTION:<\/strong> And amongst the most energetic of lobbyists on \u2013 in corporate America and Wall Street has been BlackRock, and BlackRock announcing that it will be setting up the first mutual fund in China without joint venture partners or any constraints \u2013 apparent constraints \u2013 that have been the case for 20 years there. This looks peculiar given the tensions between the two countries and the fact that BlackRock has been among those institutions working against President Trump\u2019s values and insistence on policy to constrain China. What should we make of that?<\/p>\n SECRETARY POMPEO:<\/strong> Lou, I don\u2019t want to speak about any particular, single private company, but make no mistake about it: The President has made clear our expectations for complying with U.S. law, complying with all of the requirements that we have here in place, that we want a fair and reciprocal trade relationship. You saw this in the negotiations over the trade deal. We didn\u2019t get the big deal done. Most administrations would\u2019ve caved, given the Chinese what they want. President Trump refused to do that, and I think you\u2019ll see more that follows on the economic front that\u2019ll be really important to secure jobs and wealth for people here in the United States.\"<\/p>",
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